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people waited all night long, lines wrapped around entire city blocks. apple, of course, fourth of $700 per share. the stock is down 28%. certainly bear market territory after the stunning job. what does this matter? well, there is a trickle-down effect suppliers, look at all these guys. all taking a hit. the concern is that weak demand for the iphone or at least the perception of it. the perception of it. and the new ipad many cannibalizing sales of the regular size type at. a lot of you either on apple or the funds or indices that have that as part of it. so is apple writing? we decided to bring into top experts. senior technology analyst. and managing director and head of equity director. i can't believe value of the trading for. >> only for you. liz: thank you so much. all right. people not exactly tripping over themselves in china. you know they have been kugel the night for all apple products. what is going on? a massive meaningful shift? >> competition has arrived. you are seeing competitive lower priced products coming out of samsung, coming from amazon, google. you think about
about 46 or 47 officers. this is a small community about an hour and a half outside of new york city. >> as david said, hard to explain to our kids. hard to explain to ourselves. what in the world has happened here? all these kids killed by a lone gunman in an elementary school just before christmas? i mean, it's just impossible to understand. >> here are some of the initial police transmission tapes when the calls came in. >> indicated she thinks there's someone shooting in the building. >> the individual that i have on the phone is continuing to hear what he believes to be gunfire. responding at this time. the shooting appears to have stopped. the school is in lockdown. >> roger. >> there are reports that two shooters were seen running past the gym, which would be the rear -- shooting. >> you are requested to stage at methodist church. i will need two ambulances at this time. >> now, this is the newtown police, the police chief and commander there is chief michael keho. they have a total of 47 sworn officers in uniform. i'm here with susan paige and draifd gregory, and we're waitin
that's about 60 miles northeast of new york city. the police say at least 26 people were killed, 18 of them were children. the gunman is identified as ryan lanza. he is dead. we don't know yet how he died. the police say he died in the school. he was in his early 20s, perhaps 24 years old, originally from the newtown area. lanza's mother was a teacher at this elementary school and most of the shootings occured in her classroom. she and some of her students were killed. also, a body was found in a home connected to lanza and the motive for these shootings is not known at this hour. i want to go now to john miller as we are still grappling with this terrible tragedy which i think melissa mackriss, a mother put it so well. this is a parents' worst nightmare. certainly parents of those school children who heard this news rushed to the school, many of them reunited with their children but some parents learned the very sad news that their children had been killed and have been with the governor of connecticut and others who are speaking with them. i know you've been speaking with your law
crossings here and over here. damascus the capital city is down in this area. it is our understanding that the two batteries the u.s. will send, 400 troops will go along with that, you're talking about an area maybe 60 miles north of the border, said to be defensive measures only. so this goes along with what we've heard from germany and also the netherlands agreeing to send some patriot missile batteries there as well along with troops as well. you're looking about 1200 troops between the three countries. you want to contain it. so far you've been pretty good keeping it within the borders of syria. if it spills over you're looking at area already racked by war for two years. what can happen then? they want to make sure that doesn't. we'll watch that. alisyn: next three weeks obviously will be critical. we're just getting started here. we have a heartbreaking story of heroism linked to the horrible oregon mall shooting. we'll talk about a man who put his own life to try to save another. bill: a former u.s. marine locked up in mexico on what his family call as trumped up charge. the de
approaching 92 and want to get past 92 through hayward it is stop and go towards union city. traffic in the south bay is not bad but it is building up. 1 01 headed north out of san south san jose is crowded as you approached 87. it is also slow 85 approaching highway 18. >> mountain as the high school and lincoln elementary are reopening this morning. the schools were closed yesterday after found graffiti at a nearby school that made a threat against a male teacher at monte vista. >> everything as a starting to pick up an all-out of teachers and have made their way into the parking lot. everything is reopening this morning after a very scary day for them yesterday. this happened just before 7:00 yesterday. officers went to check out graffiti at nearby lynbrook high school and they found graffiti that spelled out a bomb threat for motna this the high school. that brought dogs on the campus and look for a bomb. they did not find anything. they also evacuated nearby lincoln elementary which is also reopen today. officers will be on campus just to make sure nothing goes wrong today the m
traffic. today a good alternate -- into the west valley. >> well, sunrise over the big city. mostly cloudy and -- if there is any rain it'll be brief and right. the system is falling apart. i will show you why. cold out there, maybe light rain. i'm doing that to cover myself because i don't think much will happen. partly cloudy, mostly cloudy, just staying very cool, cloud cover and cold area, number two the jet stream split. that's the -- one goes along the coast. you take a lot of energy when you split something like that. maybe along the coast. generally cloudy, mostly cloudy. all these systems coming in run into a lot of resistance. they have a lot of cool air. chilly high temperatures. next chance of precipitation up to the higher elevations. there is a green and some of that pink mix. some of the higher elevations could get a lit of bit of snow. right off the coast. you have to see the darker green. that's what will do anything. that looks light. it's taking a lot of energy. 30s and it can go far, just not enough mixing. you combine southeast breeze with 30s it's a cold morni
, in connecticut is about 60 miles from new york city. it's a town of less than 30,000 people. so small community and a small elementary school at that we're trying to work on details what actually transpired this morning but according to the latest, we have unconfirmed report from the local paper, the courrant, there are two shooters being reported. one shooter is dead according to this report. another one is still on the loose. again very spotty reporting at this time. we're working very hard to get someone on the scene there. you're looking at a satellite shot of this elementary school. again a very developing scene there shortly after 9:40 this morning according to the local newspaper. police reported a shooter was in the main office of the school. a person in one room according to police and according to this local report had numerous gunshot wound. working to confirm this. we have a someone from sanford, connecticut. veto, how do we find answers to the questions? >> you have a lot going on here, one of the main concerns police have you have every single parent with a child in this school tr
city. it covers, newtown about 60 square miles, it's the fifth larger town in the state. back to chris and clint, we know what's happening inside according to reports, but also outside, they have requested that parents come and gather their kids. the question to you, clint, might be, is now the right time for that and what does that tell you, the fact that they're asking parents to actually come to the site? is there the children are going to be scared, frightened, they don't know what took place, unfortunately, even though our children see murders take place, see shootings take place on television, this is real life. so i think what they want to do is satisfy the urgent need for parents, number one, 20 know their children are safe and to put those children back in the arms of their parents, their care givers again so that family situation, that loving family situation can help get them past this. there's going to be cadhallenge children are going to suffer ptsd in this. >> stand by one second, clint, as you know, we're getting information coming -- let's listen, the mayor's on phone w
in new york city, the golden strip, michael eric dyson, host of nbc, melissa harris perry from the nation, and ari melbourne, columnist for the washington post and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. this is, unfortunately, something that is tha has happened a number of times this year. an ongoing national nightmare, these shootings that take place. i guess my first question is an unfolding situation. certainly we are getting more details there. there may be more bodies in the school. we don't know yet. melissa, i go to you first as a mother when you hear about this, and, you know, the ages of these children here. we're talking about an elementary school. it is a moment, obviously, for self-reflection, but also a sense that when is enough going to be enough in terms of violence in this country? >> we have to be careful because this is an unfolding event. we don't know what all the stories are, but essential as a parent -- but not just as a parent. for every one of us who sends, you know, our mom off for the day or our spouse off or our kids, you know, this idea that we live in such a con
to staff because his mother is a teacher. >> exactly. when i worked at the new york city schools after 9/11, we needed to take a very wholistic approach to this as we move forward and think of the needs of the children, this community, the teachers. this is going to be a long process of healing. there will be all kinds of great resources for people in terms of how do you talk with your children, how you move forward, how you answer their questions. certainly the school district will have to look for additional resources. joan and i were just talking about this. i hope nobody says that the school doesn't deserve whatever it is that they need to make sure there are counselors available so everyone can move forward and, you know, across this country children are going to have questions and parents are going to have to figure out how to talk with their children about what's happened. when children see something like this, they experience it very differently than we do as adults. keeping an eye on your children, if they have questions, responding to those questions but having that wholistic a
and the city of russia. we need to provide families with an opportunity to put their children in kindergartens without wasting -- [inaudible] we need another long-standing problem of russia to resolve and that is the housing issue. this is something that the federal government as well as the regional government should address. thanks to our housing agenda, we have managed to increase the housing credits, which grow at the pace of 20% a year. but we know that housing loans are something that many people with medium and high taxes use, not the rest. and we need to make loans available to broader sections of russian society including technical experts, the academics and so on. we need to make economy class housing available as well as renting opportunities for russia's population. several regions of russia which practice support for rental housing markets. i would like to emphasize in 2014 will fully meet our commitments on providing housing to military personnel. we also need to finish our programs in replacing outdated and shabby housing with new ones. we still have a large number of russian ci
is best circumstances. can be tricky. get a load of this. hundreds of workers at new york city jfk airport threatening to go on strike on december 20th. these are the security guards. none at the checkpoint. but they direct traffic, make sure the gates are secure. it could add to the chaos of travelers will feel over a busy holiday. planes will be packed. the airline trade group says 85% to 90% of the seats will be filled. and the holiday trip will cost you more than last year, 9% more, according to travelocity. nonstop prices are nearly double than what they were at the beginning of december. >> the average price is over $400 round-trip. that's a big bite out of someone's wallet, especially if you multiply that across several family members. >> reporter: if you're still on the fence about whether to take that christmas flight, decide fast. >> the time to book was weeks ago. but if you haven't booked yet, you have to pull the trigger right now. prices are going up, not every day, but every hour you wait. >> reporter: looking for cheaper fares, travelocity says your best bet is christmas ev
scene that played out in the quiet community. 60 miles east of new york city. in a very affluent community. the folks here are stunned. this isn't the thing that anyone expects to happen anywhere, let alone here in this quiet community in connecticut. police at the school, still going through it, still processing that crime scene. it will take them days to do that. >> understandably. rick leventhal joining us live. thank you. we'll check in with you later. joining us now is brenda labinsky, the mother of a student at sandy hook elementary school. all of us as parents cannot even imagine the emotions that you went through today. how did you first get the word that there was trouble at the school? >> well, i was home, i received a school announcement call. normally we get if there is bad weather and the kids will be let out early. it's, it stated there was a shooting in newtown but didn't say the school. or if it was the school. and all schools were on loc lockdown. i didn't take it too seriously because we had something like this happen prior, but it was a shooting on the street a
york city where the doctors and the nurses were waiting for patients who never came. and that's what we're seeing here. >> n.j., i know that you're reporting 24 hours now for channel 7 here in new york. we appreciate you taking time to talk with us. for those of you who are watching from other parts of the country, an idea of where this school is, it's newtown, connecticut, 60 miles northeast of new york city, a 45-minute drive or an hour at the most if traffic is good. as we pull out, you can see the town. that's the hospital where n.j. was reporting just moments ago. not far from the school. when the initial call went out, they thought they would be treating a lot of injuries. so far, only three people have been brought to the hospital and while you don't want anyone end up in the hospital, the hope as this began unfold, the hope that many made it to the hospital. the number is simply staggering. at least 27 dead. that's the latest number that we have. we know many of them are children. we know parents are on the scene. most of the parents whose children made it out have already been
some very good calls on bear stearns. i disagree with his assessment of the city. i think what is good is his perspective, what he is really known for. he kind of understands this sort of guts of these banks and why so many people want to hire him, because he is good on tv, explains things well. investors liked hearing from him, and he is a guy that could call a jamie diamond and get him on the phone. >> when j.p. morgan state chase. >> the name is escaping me. adam: the point you make, when they had the problem, we interviewed at eight. >> and he can, and get him on the phone. the sweepstakes is coming to an end. i can't tell you exactly when, but to reiterate the news, from what i understand, a very advanced talk to sign this thing adam: investors have a lot of skin in the game involving the fiscal cliff. has this been priced in? i'm hearing that they still think there will be a deal. >> investors do. the market, we should point out, the market has priced in the fiscal cliff. i talked to see as a lot. they are starting to get increasingly worried about this thing. they're telling me
and doesn't know why. he held a press conference in oklahoma city, they said the fbi and law enforcement officials followed and harassed long and his sister. in a statement the fbi says it does not violate anyone's civil rights. >>> louisiana governor bobby jindal says birth control should be sold over the counter. in a "wall street journal" op-ed he writes the political battle over health insurance coverage for contraception wouldn't be repeated if women could buy it without a prescription as and a conservative republican i believe that we have been stupid to let the democrats demagogue the contraceptives issue and pretend, during debates about health care insurance, that republicans are somehow against birth control." >>> the twinkie and other hostess brand treats could be back in your lunch bag, they're hoping. bloomberg news reports walmart and kroger are among the bidders for the iconic brand. hostess began to wind down its operation last month after failing to resolve a contract dispute with its bakers union. hostess will auction brands like twinkies and cupcakes early next year. >
, connecticut and 60 miles away from new york city. the school itself has 826 students, kindergarten through 4th grade, young and there is reports of a possible connection between the suspected gunman, ryan lanza, apparently his mother was a teacher at the school and she is reportedly among the dead. we also heard that the gunman's younger brother being held for questioning and there's an active crime scene at that family's home nearby at the suspect's home, neighbors have been told to leave their homes and not have been allowed back in there. one neighbor told cnn, the only neighbor willing to talk described two brothers as troubled. again, that is just being reported from c nn. the area obviously was heavily searched and police were checking to make sure there were no other shooters and we understand that the rest of the schools in the district on lock down for a time to make sure that there was no other concerns and no other problems and even some schools and surrounding districts were locked down. police looking through cars and had tape around one vehicle and investigators cornered off a re
: thank you. it is 60 miles east of fork city, in fairfax county, one of the richest counties in new york. it looks like something out of reader's digest. a community as immunity would seem to violence as any community in america. but today front and center the latest act of violence in america, the shooting, today, are the second biggest attack on an american educational institution since virginia tech in 2007 when 32 were killed. former homicide detective, rod, what do you make of this? >> what i can tell you and the viewers is what the police are doing. what we would do if an investigation, horrific investigation like this, trying to figure out what was the motive behind this suspect's actions. why the children? that is the question. the other question as investigators, where did he get the weapons in we will find that out the next day or two. where did he get the ammunition? why did he target this school? this is a very fluid investigation and there are several agencies right new. i got off the phone with the contact in connecticut that tells me that the forensic laboratory has been c
in this town, sort of the sleepy new england town, about an hour north of new york city. >> about 60 miles or so, not far away from new york city as well, much closer to danbury, connecticut. david, hold on for a moment. mary snow is in newtown as well, outside the suspect's home, what are you seeing over there, mary? >> we're being kept far back from the suspect's home. the police have cordoned off this area. there are multiple law enforcement vehicles lined up and residents, wolf, are being kept away from their homes as well and looking at a car, a line of vehicles lined up of residents who are told they cannot go to their homes because police tape has been put up. and there are more than a dozen law enforcement vehicles here. >> the suspect, mary, now deceased, died at the scene, we don't know the circumstances surrounding that, ryan lanza, in his 20s. are you getting any information at all if he had a direct connection to the sandy hook elementary school, where this mass killing took place? >> not as yet. and i have to tell you, wolf, we approached some of the residents here. they're s
. the horrifying reality at this hour reminds me of what happened in new york city after 9/11, when they lined up outside of the hospital. reporter: you could even go back to what happened at columbine. or perhaps at georgia tech. you can see at one point in time, they were alluding to a triage, which is a standing operating procedure and they set up a red tarp and a yellow tarp and other tarps and they will bring the patients out and they will assess them as the need. the red is the most serious. the yellow is not so serious, and then you move on down the line. we look at that tree are set up and there wasn't a single patient out there. at first, it seemed to be a good sign. now, as you go later on and you see going back to columbine and virginia tech, but that apparently was not a good sign. the fatalities were apparently in the office and in a certain classroom, but we though we don't know which classroom they were in. you kind of touched on how the whole town, all the schools on lockdown, there was a report earlier that police had surrounded a purple van that was in dander, which is just a fe
city, amtrak carries twice as many passengers as all airlines come bind. today it carries 75% of inner city travel letters between new york and washington. amtrak has done all this with the threat of funding cuts and privatization especially of the profitable northeast corridor hanging over its head. we know that in other parts of the world privatization of high speed passenger rail has tried and failed to solve the problems it was intended to solve. these plans were almost always preceded by funding cuts, system i can safety and reliability problems caused a great deal of upheaval in the transportation and forced countries to renational lies a system. with that being said, we think that amtrak's long-term next general plan for the northeast corridor provides a temp plate for a public private partnership that is worth discussing. if the partnership does not reduce the public interest or the interest of the brotherhood of lock motive engineers and other skilled workers. further they believe that amtrak should be the service prider for the northeast corridor and for the united states bec
. to set the scene, only about 80 miles from new york city and 40 miles or so from hartford. under 2,000 people live in newtown. it's a small community not far from danbury, connecticut. peaceful and wonderful place where we heard from a lost individuals with families who moved there because the school system is considered excellent there and despite the sandy hook elementary school, kindergarten to fourth great is a wonderful school although this tragedy devastated so many folks. >> reporter: yeah. people had such high praise for the school system here and it has been described as a sleepy new england town. it's lined with beautiful homes on a very quiet road here. the shock is such an under statement to say that that's what people are saying. they just hear it over and over again that people never thought something like this can happen. >> they can't believe it and it is unbelievable, but it happened and it's real unfortunately. so real. mary, stand by. adam reece is in hoboken, new jersey across the river from new york city. he is joining us. what's the connection, explain to the
things in america were. l'enfant designed washington city. there was a competition and he submitted the design for a palace. americans were not having a palace. it was not particularly awe- inspiring. in fact, in 1821, a european diplomat told the congress that as neither large nor awe- inspiring. but the answer the congressman gave said the building served its purpose. if it were larger and more elegant, perhaps some president would be inclined to become its permanent resident. >> former "new york times"" photo critic vicki goldberg has gathered a few of her favorite white house photos in "the white house, the president's home in photographs in history." watch sunday evening at 7:30 eastern and pacific on c- span3's "american history tv." >> "washington journal" continues. we're glad to have back william frey from the brookings institution. and do jennifer ortman. population will be in excess of 400 million people in the u.s. what is going to change? guest: the nation is projected to grow at a slower pace over the next 38 years. the population will continue to age. that the nation
danbury. geographically speaking, probably about an hour, 40 minute drive from new york city if you're heading up the coast and then inland somewhat, between stanford down in the southwest corner and hartford as you can see in the corner, the capital of the state. jason? >> as we saw the picture of the man with the young boy, you can imagine how traumatizing this must be for the children. this is an elementary school. they were crying and holding hands. >> they have these protocols when anything like this -- of this magnitude, there are protocols to lock down and barricade yourself, find safe positions until an all clear is indicated to get the kids out of school. >> obviously as the hours move on, we're going to be trying to get information about the motive of the situation. >> or who? is it anned a dult. >> it's always difficult to figure out why these kinds of things happen. the connecticut state police will be holding a news conference two hours from now. perhaps at that point more information will be given about the motive behind the shooting. it's all difficult to understand w
. >> and as our sister station in new york city is saying, at least three people were injured and two children and one adult. all three have been taken it to danbury hospital, but they say that they're looking for a car. a maroon or red-colored vehicle with the back window blown out. that is go that wcbs out of new york city is reporting. we're trying to give you the information coming in from so many different sources choosing the ones we know to be the most reliable with the social press and our sisters stations wcbs who say law enforcement officials have confirmed this to them. >> it to give you an idea how chaotic of the scene it is, that is just to the rear of firehouse used as a staging area, probably about a quarter-mile down the driveway from that school. to give you an idea, when robert arrived on the scene near that firehouse where he reported live earlier this morning, he reported that police officers came out of the woods escorting a gentleman telling people he had nothing to do with this. that's the kind of response we're talking about where anyone found in this krar was at least
, connecticut, 50 miles southwest of connecticut state capital, and 60 miles from our studio in new york city. cops identified the shooter as 24-year-old man, ryan lanza. police say at 9:30 they received an emergency call from the school right after the school, or around the town the school usually looks the doors. the killer, dressed in mock military gear, armed with two guns as he opened fire inside the school. his victims? teachers and children. >> we spotted the troopers and the newtown police entered the school and me began a complete active shooter seven including checking every door and every crack and every portion of the school. our objective was to evacuate as quickly as possible. >> officials have not confirmed the number of dead saying that they are in the process of notifying families. the officials said the shooter died inside the school. it is unclear if he took his own life or if police killed him. there are reports that the man's mother was found dead and investigators are questioning a second person. this is a developing story. jonathan hunt is live in newtown, connecticut t
york city particularly want the move to because great school systems, lots of grass. in fact, my wife commented seeing the video how big the school was for just 600 elementary school kids. sandy hook is a small village which is part of newtown. it's a place that for when i grew up there didn't have a movie theater. it's that kind of a place. it's a very quiet bedroom community. very close-knit community. not a lot of activities. because it is so far in to a rural area. but, you know, when i heard on the radio that this happened in newtown, connecticut, i was shocked because not that it can't happen anywhere but these things don't happen in this kind of an environment. you know, my town, danbury, my hometown, they were on lockdown. there's places like new fairfield and new milford, my mother lives in oxford ten minutes from the school and imagine a state that's not accustomed to type of disaster is really up in arms over and just fear. i mean, i'm a father of two boys. and the first thing i thought of was, i can't imagine a parent going up to school, particularly in this area, finding
. some may have worked in new york city which is about 60 miles away. they're rushing here and also word that many of the law enforcement or the first responders that were at the school knew or had their own children in this school that they were also trying to cope with so this really does hit home in many ways as we always hear. but any small community or any community anywhere throughout this country can imagine the pain and can imagine the tragic feelings that are unfolding in this town at this hour. >> michelle, do we have any information on how the shooter was able to actually enter the school? >> no. we don't have any details like that so far. i would imagine that we are hearing -- we're going to get more word in the next half hour as the governor and law enforcement hold another press briefing but the initial reports is that he entered the school. he was wearing all black. two handguns. and that he made his way to the school room where his mom taught. that's what we know so far. we don't know any other details. i am certain that everything happened very quickly. we heard about a
that is not an ordinary thing you deal with like big cities. >> the lieutenant can certainly tell you. he's a newtown officer. >> -- to see this tragedy. gibe how it has impacted you personally, not only as a law enforcement officer, as a person. >> as a person the first thing i thought about was my own children. >> talk right in here. >> could you say your name please. >> lieutenant george sinko. >> tell you tell us -- [ inaudible ]. is this the worst that you have seen? >> this is most definitely the worst thing we have had to experience here in town, tragic. but right now we're concerned about the families of the victims. our officers are professional and we will deal with this as well. >> can you describe the scene with the patients. is there a place where people are getting together and are there counselors with them? >> the local hospital has offered their crisis intervention counselors. they will be available at reed intermediate school and they're available right now if need be and they will be there all weekend. >> is there a place where parents are gathering? and what's that -- can you desc
sell it to you? i can't sell it with passion, but i will say that this is action in a city called washington or sometimes in texas we call it washington stand, where people never get anything done or don't appear to easily get things done. we do get things done. we make a decision and we proceed. >> and the fed has gotten a lot done that. was dallas federal reserve president richard fisher saying congress and the white house need to take a page from the fed on how to work and play together. the lack of action on the fiscal cliff could damage the economy in ways that the fed cannot combat. lindsey paigsa is with me and ward mccarthy of jeffries. they both join me to weigh in. lindy, what can the fed do, do you think, if congress and the white house don't make a deal and we go over the cliff? >> you know, bernanke has been very clear if the u.s. economy does go over the fiscal cliff the fed does not have the tools to offset the impact and this is something he continued to imif a size in wednesday's press conference, looking at size. impact and looking at us to temper our expectation
and their families in the small newtown community, 65 miles northeast of new york city. >> we were running really quick, so then we got to the firehouse and we sat in our classes, and i am really happy we are out alive. >> it doesn't even seem real, it just does not seem like it's even possible. you read it in the paper or see it in the news, and you're like, "oh, my god, that poor family." and then, you have something happen so close to home, it's like... i think i'm still in shock, to be honest with you. >> suarez: and connecticut governor dannel malloy addressed the shooting late this afternoon. >> you can never be prepared for this kind of incident. what has happened, what has transpired at that school building will leave a mark on this community and every family impacted. >> suarez: today's occurrence in connecticut is the latest mass shooting this year. most notably, in july, a gunman opened fire at a midnight screening of the latest batman movie, killing 12 and wounding 58. today's school attack ranks as the second deadliest crime of its kind in american history, only behind the virginia t
're delivering cable. they're doing a test pattern in kansas city. i spoke about it on the 5:00 p.m. show. you'll see more on google than apple. >> you'll be back later. >> if you'll have me. >> i want to ask you about interest rates when we come back. >> perfect. my strong suit. >> there you go. >>> gold prices closing right now. it's been a tough week for the gold bulls. brian shackman is tracking the action. >> i feel like everyone is saying, i'm brian shackman, blackberry for work, apple for fun. gold has to go somewhere. gold is potentially flat and it's holding below $1700 right now. if you expand it out to the week, you see what happened post the fed. it sort of fell off the table. over a seven-day span, again, flat. volatility and the options market, this is going to stay this way maybe for a little while. i want to look at the whole flex because basically it's the same story. you see copper and palladium up, especially palladium. copper is a proxy for chinese growth. a little bit of optimism out of that. in terms of where the money flow here, folks, basically it seems that trading out
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